I've been listening to this episode and I find it a hard slog. I've been a Never Trump Republican for years and I voted for Kamala Harris and hopes she wins. I don't think democracy is over if Trump is elected again, but I don't think it will be good for our nation and world. I think Trump is a terrible human being. All of that said, the reason I feel this episode is hard to hear is because I've heard this same message from nine years. I don't know Gretchen, but her talk felt somewhat self rightepus and not willing to see the faults on her side. For example when Jason talked about Clinton, she minized it as simply a "zipper problem." While his infidelities aren't the same as Trump's I think the willingness of the Democrats in the 90s to minimize and ignore what he did had implications for how Republicans would act later. That doesn't mean the GOP is innocent, they had a choice, but the actions of the Democrats were a factor.
The question I want to know if how do we live post election? How do we extend grace to people who voted for Trump? How do we see where we have fallen short in loving others or making politics and idol? This is not a reflection on the podcast, but I'm not interested anymore in talking about how bad he is, because that is known. I'm interested in learning how to be a faithful witness in the face of Trump and Trumpism that extends grace even to the person wearing a MAGA hat. The person that a as a gay black man I might feel uncomfortable around.
I should add that I do like the podcast. It's just that a lot of what I've heard over the years from anti-Trump groups is the same thing that borders on self-righteousness with little room for curiosity, introspection and grace. I don't want Trump back in the White House, but I want more low anthropology in all of our politics.
Dennis, thanks for the comment and feedback. Check out Gretchen's podcast where she addresses and takes ownership for her role in what the GOP is today.
Your question is my question. How do we live post-election and how can we extend grace along with be a means of grace? I for one am committing to prayer. Namely, praying at least half as often as I check social media and cable news over the coming days. Praying for the softening of our own hearts so that we might see one another as God sees us is where I am starting.
Seriously, thank you for the honest and critical feedback. Too often I post and wonder if anyone is listening or reading this stuff.
I've been listening to this episode and I find it a hard slog. I've been a Never Trump Republican for years and I voted for Kamala Harris and hopes she wins. I don't think democracy is over if Trump is elected again, but I don't think it will be good for our nation and world. I think Trump is a terrible human being. All of that said, the reason I feel this episode is hard to hear is because I've heard this same message from nine years. I don't know Gretchen, but her talk felt somewhat self rightepus and not willing to see the faults on her side. For example when Jason talked about Clinton, she minized it as simply a "zipper problem." While his infidelities aren't the same as Trump's I think the willingness of the Democrats in the 90s to minimize and ignore what he did had implications for how Republicans would act later. That doesn't mean the GOP is innocent, they had a choice, but the actions of the Democrats were a factor.
The question I want to know if how do we live post election? How do we extend grace to people who voted for Trump? How do we see where we have fallen short in loving others or making politics and idol? This is not a reflection on the podcast, but I'm not interested anymore in talking about how bad he is, because that is known. I'm interested in learning how to be a faithful witness in the face of Trump and Trumpism that extends grace even to the person wearing a MAGA hat. The person that a as a gay black man I might feel uncomfortable around.
I just want some grace with my sense of justice.
I should add that I do like the podcast. It's just that a lot of what I've heard over the years from anti-Trump groups is the same thing that borders on self-righteousness with little room for curiosity, introspection and grace. I don't want Trump back in the White House, but I want more low anthropology in all of our politics.
Dennis, thanks for the comment and feedback. Check out Gretchen's podcast where she addresses and takes ownership for her role in what the GOP is today.
Your question is my question. How do we live post-election and how can we extend grace along with be a means of grace? I for one am committing to prayer. Namely, praying at least half as often as I check social media and cable news over the coming days. Praying for the softening of our own hearts so that we might see one another as God sees us is where I am starting.
Seriously, thank you for the honest and critical feedback. Too often I post and wonder if anyone is listening or reading this stuff.